Debatemne: Thai-Dk Din debat side :: Tusinder af flygtninge strandet ud for Thailands kyst
Oprettet af M55 d. 12-05-2015 07:41
#1
Op mod 8.000 flygtninge fra Myanmar og Bangladesh frygtes nu fanget på smuglerbåde ud for Thailands kyst. Efter thailandske myndigheder i starten af maj fandt efterladte og hidtil ukendte flygtningelejre i junglen i det sydlige Thailand på grænsen til Malaysia, har man skærpet indsatsen mod illegale flygtninge, der rejser gennem Thailand mod Malaysia. Derfor bliver de nu holdt på vandet af deres smuglere.
Myanmar migrants on a boat stranded for a week in the Andaman Sea with no food or water say 10 people have died, while some are resorting to drinking urine. The fishing boat, carrying about 350 people of the Muslim Rohingya minority, has been refused entry to Thailand.
Those on board told the BBC the crew abandoned them and disabled the engine. They said the bodies of those who had died were thrown overboard. Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand have been turning away migrant boats. Several thousand people are still believed to be stuck in boats off the coasts of Thailand and Malaysia.
Det er især bangladeshiske flygtninge og det muslimske mindretal Rohingya fra Myanmar, der smugles gennem Thailand til Malaysia. I lejren, de thailandske myndigheder fandt i junglen, var der også 32 gravsteder dækket til med bambus, hvor de, der formodentligt døde af sult eller sygnede hen blev begravet.
Flygtningene er angiveligt blevet holdt fanget i lejren i månedsvis, mens smuglere har afpresset deres familier for penge til at få dem om på den anden side af grænsen, skriver BBC
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Redigeret af ADM d. 12-05-2020 08:14
Oprettet af M55 d. 14-05-2015 18:42
#2
Myanmar migrants on a boat stranded for a week in the Andaman Sea with no food or water say 10 people have died, while some are resorting to drinking urine. The fishing boat, carrying about 350 people of the Muslim Rohingya minority, has been refused entry to Thailand.
Those on board told the BBC the crew abandoned them and disabled the engine. They said the bodies of those who had died were thrown overboard. Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand have been turning away migrant boats. Several thousand people are still believed to be stuck in boats off the coasts of Thailand and Malaysia.
Oprettet af M55 d. 17-05-2015 12:53
#3
send dem til danmark der er altid plads ((6))
Sultne og udmattede - ingen vil tage imod bådflygtninge i Asien
Malaysia, Indonesien og Thailand har lukket grænserne. Det kan koste bådflygtninge livet.
Det er en farlig tur over havet, og bådene er slidte og dårligt udstyrede.
Alligevel vælger tusindvis af mennesker fra den muslimske minoritet Rohingya at tage chancen og flygte fra Myanmar, hvor de er udsat for omfattende forfølgelse. I årets tre første måneder er 25.000 mennesker flygtet ifølge tal fra FN - 300 er døde af strabadserne.
Men de tager turen forgæves. Myndighederne i både Malaysia, Indonesien og Thailand opsnapper bådene og sender dem tilbage på havet.
Det er umenneskeligt, lyder det fra menneskerettighedsorganisationen Human Rights Watch:
- Tidligere var det sådan, at hvis en Rohingya-båd blev afvist, så kunne de sejle et andet sted hen. Men nu afviser både Thailand, Malaysia og Indonesien bådene. De har ingen steder at tage hen, siger Sunai Phasuk, der er seniorforsker for Human Rights Watch.
Både må vende om
Det sker næsten dagligt, at både må vende om.
Torsdag afviste de malaysiske myndigheder tre både med ialt 1.300 flygtninge, mens Thailand sendte en båd med 300 flygtninge tilbage igen. Tirsdag skete det samme for en båd med 500 mennesker ud for Indonesiens kyst.
Human Rights Watch vurderer, at omkring 8.000 mennesker lige nu er strandet på havet - og der kommer stadig flere til.
- Konsekvenserne af afvisningerne kan være, at hundredevis, måske tusindvis af mennesker omkommer. Deres liv er i stor fare i bådene, siger Sunai Phasuk.
Forbrydelser mod menneskeheden
Det er også helt udelukket for bådflygtningene at vende tilbage til Myanmar, forklarer han:
- Menneskerettighedskrænkelserne og forfølgelsen af Ronhingya-folket i Myanmar har nået et punkt, hvor Human Rights Watch betragter det, der foregår, som forbrydelser mod menneskeheden og etnisk udrensning. Situationen er så desperat, at Rohingya-folket ikke kan blive, og hvis det lykkes dem at flygte, kan de heller ikke vende tilbage, siger Sunai Phasuk.
LÆS OGSÅ Massegrav med bådflygtninge fundet i Thailand
Organisationen opfordrer de involverede regeringer til at tage flygtningene ind og behandle deres sager i stedet for at sende dem tilbage på havet.
Der er topmøde i Thailands hovedstad Bangkok om problemet 29. maj.
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http://www.dr.dk/...171430.htm
Redigeret af M55 d. 17-05-2015 12:55
Oprettet af AL 48 d. 17-05-2015 16:27
#4
Australien gjorde det samme, og slap for næsten alle bådflygtninge da de gridske bagmænd opdagede at det var umuligt længere at landsætte flygtninge i Australien.-Dengang var menneskerettighedsorganisationer også på barrikaderne, men det kunne påvises at langt færre døde, da de så ikke blev sendt afsted i de rådne plimsollere.
Australien har anbefalet EU at bruge samme taktik i Middelhavet.-Send dem tilbage hvor de kom fra, samt vend deres plimsollere mod Marocco igen.
Så længe de får lov at komme i land, vil bagmændene blot sende flere og flere. -Og det er
dem, der skider på folks liv og sikkerhed. De er kun ude efter pengene.
Redigeret af AL 48 d. 17-05-2015 16:28
Oprettet af soi8 d. 17-05-2015 16:50
#5
AL 48 skrev:
Australien gjorde det samme, og slap for næsten alle bådflygtninge da de gridske bagmænd opdagede at det var umuligt længere at landsætte flygtninge i Australien.-Dengang var menneskerettighedsorganisationer også på barrikaderne, men det kunne påvises at langt færre døde, da de så ikke blev sendt afsted i de rådne plimsollere.
Australien har anbefalet EU at bruge samme taktik i Middelhavet.-Send dem tilbage hvor de kom fra, samt vend deres plimsollere mod Marocco igen.
Så længe de får lov at komme i land, vil bagmændene blot sende flere og flere. -Og det er dem, der skider på folks liv og sikkerhed. De er kun ude efter pengene.
Det er nemlig helt korrekt AL48. Eneste middel er konsekvent at afvise dem. De fleste af dem er jo heller ikke egentlige flygtninge men nogle der håber på et bedre liv i andre lande. Det er jo nærmest illegale invandrere. Hvis de store mængder får lov at komme i land vil det eskalere i det uendelige og de vil strømme til både Sysøst Asien og Europa.
Redigeret af soi8 d. 17-05-2015 16:52
Oprettet af farang d. 19-05-2015 08:35
#6
Det er nemlig helt korrekt AL48. Eneste middel er konsekvent at afvise dem.
:TUP
Redigeret af ADM d. 12-05-2020 08:13
Oprettet af thai d. 20-05-2015 08:47
#7
afvist bliver de ikke mere
Hundreds rescued as Myanmar offers first help in migrant crisis
BANDA ACEH, Indonesia (AFP) - Hundreds of starving boatpeople were rescued off Indonesia on Wednesday as Myanmar for the first time offered to help ease a regional migrant crisis blamed in part on its treatment of the ethnic Rohingya minority.
The change of tune from Yangon came as the foreign ministers of Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand -- facing global criticism for turning away rickety boats packed with starving migrants -- gathered for talks on the issue.
Following appeals by UN chief Ban Ki-moon and Washington last week for the Rohingya and Bangladeshi migrants to be rescued, Pope Francis issued his first comments on the issue Tuesday.
"We think of the poor Rohingya of Myanmar. As they leave their land to escape persecution they do not know what will happen to them," he said in a mass at the Vatican, likening the plight of the Rohingya to that of Christian and ethnic Yazidi people brutalised by the Islamic State group.
Nearly 3,000 boatpeople already have swum to shore or been rescued off Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand over the past 10 days after a Thai crackdown disrupted long-established smuggling routes, prompting some of the gangs responsible to abandon their human cargo at sea.
A total of 433 migrants believed to be from Myanmar were rescued in the early hours of Wednesday off Aceh in Indonesia, local officials and fisherman said.
"Their condition is very weak. Many are sick, they told me that some of their friends died from starvation," said Teuku Nyak Idrus, a local fishermen involved in the rescue.
Those rescued included 30 children and 26 women, search and rescue officials said.
With food and water supplies running low, some boats have drifted back and forth as Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand refused to accept them, drawing international condemnation.
Myanmar also has come under growing pressure to help stem the outflow of Muslim Rohingya, who are fleeing their homes in the country’s western Rakhine state after years of violence and discrimination at the hands of the Buddhist majority. Most head for Muslim-majority Malaysia.
http://www.nation...60516.html
Oprettet af thai d. 24-05-2015 12:57
#8
det er ikke kun i thailand det sner, nu er der også fundet masse grave i Malaysia
Malaysia minister: Mass graves found
KUALA LUMPUR - Malaysia's home minister has announced that mass graves have been found in the country's north near detention camps run by human traffickers, a report said on Sunday.
Home Minister Zahid Hamidi was quoted by The Star newspaper's website as saying the graves were found along the border with Thailand.
"But we don’t know how many there are. We are probably going to find more bodies," Zahid was quoted as saying.
Earlier newspaper reports said the graves may contain the bodies of hundreds of migrants from Bangladesh and Myanmar.
http://www.bangko...aves-found
Oprettet af M55 d. 24-05-2015 13:50
#9
Massegrave med bådflygtninge fundet i Malaysia
En avis i Kuala Lumpur skriver, at der er fundet 30 grave med hundredvis af ofre for menneskesmuglere
Flere massegrave er blevet fundet i det nordlige Malaysia i nærheden af lejre, som drives af menneskesmuglere. En ikke-navngiven kilde siger til avisen Utusan Malaysia, at det drejer sig om næsten 30 massegrave med hundredvis af skeletter.
Tidligere i denne måned fandt thailandsk politi lejre i junglen med en række grave med migranter, som menes at være blevet dræbt af menneskesmuglere.
Gravene i Malaysia er fundet nær grænsen til Thailand. Det menes, at de dræbte var medlemmer af det muslimske rohingya-mindretal i Myanmar.
Malaysia har indtil for nylig afvist rapporter om massegrave og menneskesmuglerlejre i landet. Landets indenrigsminister, Zahid Hamidi, siger, at han er chokeret over fundet af massegravene.
Zahid Hamidi siger til avisen The Stars hjemmeside, at myndighederne ikke ved, hvor mange lig, der er i gravene.
The Star siger, at der 'menes at være op mod 100 rohingya muslimer' i gravene.
Ifølge Utusan Malaysia er der tale om '30 massegrave med hundredvis af skeletter'. Avisen citerer en unavngiven kilde.
Gravene er fundet nær Padang Besar og Wang Kelian, to byer på grænsen til Thailand i den malaysiske delstat Perlis.
Tidligere i denne måned afdækkede myndighederne i Thailand en massegrav i en forladt lejr i junglen, hvor det menes, at migranter og flygtninge fra Myanmar og Bangladesh er blevet begravet af menneskesmuglere.
Smuglerne skal have holdt nogle flygtninge som gidsler, mens de afventede løsepenge fra deres pårørende.
- Der er mindst 30 grave i alt i en velorganiseret lejr, som menneskesmuglere har brugt, sagde en ledende politimand, Anuchon Chamat, til Reuters.
Lejren ligger i Songkhla-provinsen nær Malaysias grænse.
Thailand og Malaysia har efter internationalt pres ændret kurs og har meddelt, at de vil tage imod de tusindvis af bådflygtninge, der driver rundt på havet i regionen.
Men de to lande kræver international hjælp til at få skaffet bådflygtningene permanent ophold inden for et år.
Thailand har optrappet kampen mod menneskesmuglerne efter fundet af lejrene, og der synes at være skabet et kaos i den regionale menneskesmugling.
http://ekstrablad...ia/5577562
Oprettet af bz d. 25-05-2015 08:11
#10
mere nyt
139 grave sites, 28 trafficking camps found in Malaysia
WANG KELIAN (MALAYSIA) - A total of 139 grave sites and 28 human-trafficking camps have been found in a remote northern Malaysian border region, the country's top police official told reporters Monday.
"(Authorities) found 139 suspected graves. They are not sure how many bodies are inside each grave," national police chief Khalid Abu Bakar said.
Khalid also said the largest of the camps could have housed up to 300 people, as he announced details of the first such sites to be found on Malaysian soil since a regional human-trafficking crisis erupted earlier this month.
http://www.bangko...n-malaysia
Oprettet af peter99 d. 25-05-2015 17:31
#11
bz skrev:
mere nyt
139 grave sites, 28 trafficking camps found in Malaysia
WANG KELIAN (MALAYSIA) - A total of 139 grave sites and 28 human-trafficking camps have been found in a remote northern Malaysian border region, the country's top police official told reporters Monday.
"(Authorities) found 139 suspected graves. They are not sure how many bodies are inside each grave," national police chief Khalid Abu Bakar said.
Khalid also said the largest of the camps could have housed up to 300 people, as he announced details of the first such sites to be found on Malaysian soil since a regional human-trafficking crisis erupted earlier this month.
https://www.bangk...n-malaysia
Redigeret af ADM d. 12-05-2020 08:13
Oprettet af thai d. 26-05-2015 07:50
#12
SEA MIGRANTS
Horrors unearthed at 28 sites used by human traffickers
WANG KELIAN (Perlis): A decomposing corpse is on the ground, just bones and tattered skin. It used to be a human being, someone's son or daughter, brother or sister, until about two weeks ago.
Now it's part of the horrors unearthed at the 28 camps near this border town that were used by people smugglers who likely abandoned them after Thai police found similar graves and started a hunt for the traffickers.
In their rush to get away, the syndicate members appear to have left everything that could slow them down, including sick or dying migrants.
Their cruelty has been reported by migrants who witnessed how some were thrown into the sea from their boats if they got too sick or too troublesome.
At the camps, police personnel have counted 139 graves holding the remains of more than 150 people, believed to be Rohingya and Bangladeshi migrants.
Located within three kilometres of each other, the camps are in hilly jungle terrain.
Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar, who visited the sites, said they were found during the Ops Wawasan Khas operation that took place from May 11 to 23.
The hunt came in the wake of similar camps being discovered by Thai authorities on their side of the border and reports of there being such camps on Malaysian soil.
The Star had reported earlier that a former president of the Rohingya club in Thailand, Abdul Kalam, said that 80% of these camps were in Malaysia.
Yuttana Sarasit, a committee member of the Muslims for Peace Foundation in Thailand, had also told The Star that several of its helpers had seen such camps and graves on the Malaysian side.
The authorities here had initially denied any existence of the camps.
Khalid said he was shocked and saddened by what he saw at the camps here - the cages, the squalor and the extent of the people smuggling operation.
"The migrants were brought to the camps by syndicates where they were caged and guarded," he said, adding that one of the camps could easily hold about 300 people.
The camps were extensively set up, equipped with water pipes, a generator, huge wok, water containers, and stores of cooking oil, fresh chillies even, and medication.
"Two or three camps were recently built and abandoned. We found rice and vegetables there, and the cooking utensils looked new," said Khalid.
He said the exhumation was going to be a long and tedious process.
"It is about a three-hour hike to some of these camps and then the remains must be brought down through the difficult terrain.
"We are handling this respectfully and humanely while working so as to not destroy any evidence," he said.
Khalid was speaking at a press conference at the Wang Kelian General Operations Force tactical base yesterday.
Three-hundred VAT69 police commandos and 247 GOF personnel combed the 50km-long border during Ops Wawasan Khas.
Police believe that they have found all the camps.
They were acting on information and intelligence gathered following the arrest this year of 37 people suspected of being involved in human trafficking.
Two of the suspects were low-ranking policemen.
Twenty people have been charged under the Anti-Trafficking in Persons and Anti-Smuggling of Migrants Act this year, according to Khalid.
"We will find those who ran these camps," he said, adding that police were also looking for the migrants who were kept at the sites, to find out more about what went on there.
The discovery of the camps and graves in Thailand also led to thousands of Rohingya and Bangladesh migrates getting set afloat in rickety boats and left to fend for themselves.
Overflowing with weak and malnourished migrants, the vessels have been making landfall at various parts of Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand.
http://www.nation...60929.html
Redigeret af ADM d. 12-05-2020 08:17
Oprettet af thai d. 30-05-2015 08:55
#13
om 20 til 30 år er der ingen der arbejder de slås alle for at få den daglige mad eller også er de på flugt fra andre flygninge
Fiskere hjælper næsten 400 bådflygtninge i land i Indonesien
Flygtningestrømmen til lande i det sydøstlige Asien fortsætter uden tegn på at aftage
Indonesiske fiskere har onsdag hjulpet 374 bådflygtninge i land i den nordvestlige del af landets Aceh-provins, oplyser eftersøgnings- og redningsmyndigheder i Indonesien til Reuters.
- I alt har vi fundet 500 personer til havs, og de er ved at blive bragt i land i mindre både, siger Khairul Nova fra den nationale redningstjeneste.
Flygtningene, der udgøres af rohingya-muslimer fra Myanmar og personer fra Bangladesh, er blot de seneste af en lang række, der de seneste uger er ankommet med båd til kysterne ud for Indonesien og Malaysia.
Med den seneste gruppe er antallet af bådflygtninge, der er ankommet til de to lande de seneste uger, nu over 2000.
Tusindvis af andre personer, der er flygtet fra fattigdom og forfølgelse, menes fortsat at befinde sig på havet, og regeringerne i regionen har indtil videre ikke gjort meget for at redde dem i land på trods af appeller fra en række internationale humanitære organisationer.
Den seneste redningsaktion finder sted samtidig med, at udenrigsministrene fra Indonesien, Thailand og Malaysia onsdag er samlet i Kuala Lumpur for at diskutere flygtningekrisen i området.
Indonesien har meldt ud, at landet vil forhindre migrantbåde i at nå kysten, men samtidig vil det yde humanitær hjælp til havs, hvis det er nødvendigt.
FN's generalsekretær, Ban Ki-moon, har for nylig sagt, at han er dybt foruroliget over rapporter om, at nogle lande i det sydøstlige Asien afviser at tage imod desperate bådflygtninge, som har drevet rundt på havet i lang tid.
Myanmar, som mange af flygtninge kommer fra, siger i en udtalelse fra landets udenrigsministerium onsdag, at landet er klar til at yde humanitær hjælp til bådflygtninge.
De personer, der er ankommet til Acec onsdag, vil blive registreret som flygtninge.
http://ekstrablad...en/5571400
Oprettet af M55 d. 02-06-2015 07:52
#14
Journalist i Bangkok: Ingen vil tage ansvar for bådflygtninge
De tusindvis af bådflygtninge, der sejler rundt i Sydøstasien, skal ikke regne med at komme til kyst foreløbigt, fortæller en journalist i området.
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Redigeret af ADM d. 20-07-2017 02:58